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	<title>Comments on: Gentoo/MIPS for Loongson — LiveUSB image is here</title>
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	<description>The life and times of Stuart Longland (VK4FSJL)</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: r0bertz</title>
		<link>http://stuartl.longlandclan.yi.org/blog/2008/02/14/gentoomips-loongson-liveusb/#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator>r0bertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to get DRI working on Linux-2.6.24.2 + xorg-server-1.4.0.90-r3
Now X is working, but DRI not working yet.
Ebuilds are available here: http://www.gentoo-cn.org/gitweb/?p=loongson;a=summary
Some basic analysis could be found here: &lt;a href="http://zhllg.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!956A48A2D7ED7265!2513.entry" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://zhllg.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!956A48A2D7ED7265!2513.entry&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to get DRI working on Linux-2.6.24.2 + xorg-server-1.4.0.90-r3<br />
Now X is working, but DRI not working yet.<br />
Ebuilds are available here: <a href="http://www.gentoo-cn.org/gitweb/?p=loongson;a=summary" rel="nofollow">http://www.gentoo-cn.org/gitweb/?p=loongson;a=summary</a><br />
Some basic analysis could be found here: <a href="http://zhllg.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!956A48A2D7ED7265!2513.entry" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://zhllg.spaces.live.com/blog/cns" rel="nofollow">http://zhllg.spaces.live.com/blog/cns</a>!956A48A2D7ED7265!2513.entry</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://stuartl.longlandclan.yi.org/blog/2008/02/14/gentoomips-loongson-liveusb/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the colleague of cpp above. I was able to use this image and kernel to bootstrap the system into full gentoo system with little trouble. Currently running with kernel version 2.6.23.14 with no real trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the colleague of cpp above. I was able to use this image and kernel to bootstrap the system into full gentoo system with little trouble. Currently running with kernel version 2.6.23.14 with no real trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Redhatter (VK4FSJL)</title>
		<link>http://stuartl.longlandclan.yi.org/blog/2008/02/14/gentoomips-loongson-liveusb/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>Redhatter (VK4FSJL)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay... there are a number of issues with doing this LiveUSB image on SGI systems.

(1) there's no such thing as an IP22 CPU.  IP22 systems, yes, typically with either R4000-series or R5000 CPUs.  But no IP22 "CPUs".
(2) A LiveCD already exists for SGI systems running MIPS4-class CPUs (R5000/RM5200/RM7000/R1xxxx...), based around the XFCE desktop.
(3) The software on this LiveUSB image, would run like utter crap, on most SGI boxes.
(4) It's physically impossible to boot from USB on a SGI system.  You'd need some means of loading the kernel externally.

The only reason why it was practical to include this, on the Lemote LiveUSB image, is because these are machines that, CPU-wise (but sadly, not IO-wise) have significantly more grunt than most SGI boxes.  The only boxes that come close, are high-end Octanes (dual-CPU and at least 300MHz), and IP27 systems.  And even these, lack accelerated video under Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230; there are a number of issues with doing this LiveUSB image on SGI systems.</p>
<p>(1) there&#8217;s no such thing as an IP22 CPU.  IP22 systems, yes, typically with either R4000-series or R5000 CPUs.  But no IP22 &#8220;CPUs&#8221;.<br />
(2) A LiveCD already exists for SGI systems running MIPS4-class CPUs (R5000/RM5200/RM7000/R1xxxx&#8230;), based around the XFCE desktop.<br />
(3) The software on this LiveUSB image, would run like utter crap, on most SGI boxes.<br />
(4) It&#8217;s physically impossible to boot from USB on a SGI system.  You&#8217;d need some means of loading the kernel externally.</p>
<p>The only reason why it was practical to include this, on the Lemote LiveUSB image, is because these are machines that, CPU-wise (but sadly, not IO-wise) have significantly more grunt than most SGI boxes.  The only boxes that come close, are high-end Octanes (dual-CPU and at least 300MHz), and IP27 systems.  And even these, lack accelerated video under Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
		<link>http://stuartl.longlandclan.yi.org/blog/2008/02/14/gentoomips-loongson-liveusb/#comment-1464</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

Do you plan a live image for SGI Mips, too? I would be especially interested in an image for ip22 CPU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>Do you plan a live image for SGI Mips, too? I would be especially interested in an image for ip22 CPU</p>
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		<title>By: cpp</title>
		<link>http://stuartl.longlandclan.yi.org/blog/2008/02/14/gentoomips-loongson-liveusb/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>cpp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can buy them - nice retail boxes and everything.  But when a colleague and I each decided to buy a pair (last summer - we are in North America), it wasn't as easy as making an order via a website form and paying with your credit card.

We contacted sales@lemote.com and were instructed to make an international wire transfer for payment.  This failed for us, so we ultimately were able to arrange alternative payment (Paypal).  This worked perfectly, and we got our boxes very quickly from China.

If you really want one, and they *are* nifty ;-), I suggest you contact sales@lemote.com.  They were very good to deal with when we placed our order, and were very helpful in arranging the alternative payment.  It is possible distribution and payment options have evolved in the last 6 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can buy them - nice retail boxes and everything.  But when a colleague and I each decided to buy a pair (last summer - we are in North America), it wasn&#8217;t as easy as making an order via a website form and paying with your credit card.</p>
<p>We contacted <a href="mailto:sales@lemote.com">sales@lemote.com</a> and were instructed to make an international wire transfer for payment.  This failed for us, so we ultimately were able to arrange alternative payment (Paypal).  This worked perfectly, and we got our boxes very quickly from China.</p>
<p>If you really want one, and they *are* nifty ;-), I suggest you contact <a href="mailto:sales@lemote.com">sales@lemote.com</a>.  They were very good to deal with when we placed our order, and were very helpful in arranging the alternative payment.  It is possible distribution and payment options have evolved in the last 6 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://stuartl.longlandclan.yi.org/blog/2008/02/14/gentoomips-loongson-liveusb/#comment-1437</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask r0bertz, he tries to get one for me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask r0bertz, he tries to get one for me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nightmorph</title>
		<link>http://stuartl.longlandclan.yi.org/blog/2008/02/14/gentoomips-loongson-liveusb/#comment-1436</link>
		<dc:creator>nightmorph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh, slow streaming from your webhost is bogging down Planet Gentoo.

Now, that being said, this looks sexeh. SexEH, with an ee aych. So it's looking good and all, but where can the rest of the world that is not China buy one of these sexy MIPS boxes? I want one. And not a development one that's possibly missing stuff, but the full deal, end user-like.

All your posts on the Lemote goodness really make me want one. Really really want one. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, slow streaming from your webhost is bogging down Planet Gentoo.</p>
<p>Now, that being said, this looks sexeh. SexEH, with an ee aych. So it&#8217;s looking good and all, but where can the rest of the world that is not China buy one of these sexy MIPS boxes? I want one. And not a development one that&#8217;s possibly missing stuff, but the full deal, end user-like.</p>
<p>All your posts on the Lemote goodness really make me want one. Really really want one. <img src='http://stuartl.longlandclan.yi.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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